Why? Why Companies do this?
Ivan Brantes Salinas | Santiago, Santiago Chile | 10/11/2005
(3 out of 5 stars)
"When I heard the news that this DVD was going to be released, I thought that my old ELP VHS tapes collection will rest in peace in a box down in my basement. I was wrong.
Bootleggers around the world must be very happy since their material still worth the money they ask for.
This DVD contains great material, but sometimes it is uncomplete, edited, and/or out of synchronization. Fans of the band has had some of this videos for a long time. Beyond the Beginning Documentary is worth to be seen. Now let's go for more serious review:
1. TAKE A PEBBLE (1970, THE BEAT CLUB TV SHOW)
Uncomplete! Beat Club session. They should have included at least The Knife Edge from the same sessions. This was available on "The Best Of Beat Club DVD - 1973 (sic)" (formerly on japanese Laserdisc, laterly on PAL DVD).
2. KNIFE EDGE (1971, BRUSSELS CONCERT)
This was already available on ELP "Masters from the Vaults" DVD. Please note this track is taken from two different shows, same venue.
3. RONDO / PICTURES AT AN EXHIBITION (1970, FROM ISLE OF WIGHT)
This is the infamous "portion" of ELP included on Murray Lerner film "Message to Love" about the Isle of Wight Festival. Look for the european or japanese release of this DVD to see the full performance of Rondo. Maybe it's time to ask Murray Lerner for the complete ELP IOW festival performance (he's been releasing parts of his material: The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Jethro Tull)
4. RONDO (1971, BRUSSELS CONCERT)
This was already available on ELP "Masters from the Vaults" DVD
5. TARKUS - ERUPTION (1972, TOKYO CONCERT)
This is an abdridge third and at sometimes fourth generation video.
6. HOEDOWN (1973, MILAN CONCERT)
Great! maybe at a different speed (maybe due to transfer from video to digital) than the actual recording but a must have. I have only seen photos from this concert in italian magazine Ciao 2001.
7. TANK (1973, MILAN CONCERT)
Mmmmh! maybe this is Tank in disguise, a better name should have been "Drum Solo"
8. LUCKY MAN (1974, CALIFORNIA JAM): A bit out of synch. but great. Which bubble gum brand sponsored this concert?
9. KARN EVIL 9, 3RD IMPRESSION (1974, CALIFORNIA JAM)
Edited, uncomplete and cut!
10. TOCCATA (1974, AQUARIUS TV SHOW)
Great! An unwanted fade at the end but a must have.
11. I BELIEVE IN FATHER CHRISTMAS (1975, PROMO)
12. HONKY TONK TRAIN BLUES (1976, OSCAR PETERSON PIANO PARTY)
Er.. well I have never enjoyed much those Scott Joplin piano style improvisation that Keith used to play. Please note that Roy Babbington (ex Soft Machine) is on acoustic bass.
13. FANFARE FOR THE COMMON MAN (1977, PROMO VIDEO)
Great! An unwanted fade at the end but a must have.
14. PIRATES (1977, MONTREAL CONCERT)
Great moment and great effort with orchestra and the famous Palmer spinning drums kit. Previously available on VHS Live in Montreal
15. TIGER IN THE SPOTLIGHT (1977, POP ROCK TV SHOW)
Great! ELP doing a play back for this number.
16. WATCHING OVER YOU (1978, MEMPHIS CONCERT)
Out of synch and cut. Poor image quality.
17. TARKUS (1992, ROYAL ALBERT HALL CONCERT):
The band doesn't play anymore the full version of this great number. Fine performance.
18. TOUCH AND GO (1997, BUDAPEST CONCERT)
New song, for this new incarnation of ELP that goes pretty well.
1. AMERICA (THE NICE) - 1968 BEAT CLUB TV SHOW
Beautiful. They should have included The Nice live performance of Tim Hardin's "Hang on to a Dream" from the same TV show. This was available on "The Best Of Beat Club DVD - 1968" DVD - PAL format.
2. FIRE (THE CRAZY WORLD OF A. BROWN) - 1968 BEAT CLUB TV SHOW
3. 21ST CENTURY SCHIZOID MAN (KING CRIMSON) - 1969 HYDE PARK
I have never seen this one before, it's just a segment but it's great.
1. ELP IN REHEARSAL 1973
Great! A must have. Keith leading the band from the basement.
2. "THE STORY OF THE ALBUM COVERS" DOCUMENTARY
Uncomplete. No info. on the first album cover, mentioning the original fold out cover of the early releases with a band photo inside. No info. on "Welcome Back..." triple fold out cover.
3. ELP AT BRANDS HATCH 1973
4. INTERVIEW WITH BOB MOOG
It will always be a pleasure to listen to the master himself speaking (great stories!), but he is not a funny guy, he just created and built the famous MOOG synthesizers including the world acclaimed Mini MOOG.
CALIFORNIA JAM 1974, 44-MINUTE PERFORMANCE:
I have mixed feelings with release. First I'm happy to see an official release but I was waiting for a more PROFESSIONAL work not only a basic transfer from the original videos.
This is not the entire concert, it's not in the right order, in various segment is out of synchronization (voice - Sound). Even more, the last segment is taken from a different source (piano spinning and Great Gates of Kiev). Compare this one with top class Deep Purple C. Jam 74 Laserdisc and/or DVD, to understand what I'm talking about.
elpfan | 08/05/2005
(5 out of 5 stars)
"Here's a track list. Finally what ELP fans have been waiting for. 2 discs, approx. 4 hours!!
ELP in Pictures:
1. Take A Pebble (1970, The Beat Club TV show)
2. Knife Edge (1971, Brussels concert)
3. Rondo / Pictures At An Exhibition (1970, montage from Isle of Wight performances)
4. Rondo (1971, Brussels concert)
5. Tarkus - Eruption (1972, Tokyo concert)
6. Hoedown (1973, Milan concert)
7. Tank (1973, Milan concert)
8. Lucky Man (1974, California Jam)
9. Karn Evil 9, 3rd Impression (1974, California Jam)
10. Toccata (1974, Aquarius TV show)
11. I Believe In Father Christmas (1975, promo video)
12. Honky Tonk Train Blues (1976, Oscar Peterson Piano Party TV show)
13. Fanfare For The Common Man (1977, promo video)
14. Pirates (1977, Montreal concert)
15. Tiger In The Spotlight (1977, Pop Rock TV show)
16. Watching Over You (1978, Memphis concert)
17. Tarkus (1992, Royal Albert Hall concert)
18. Touch And Go (1997, Budapest concert)
1. America (THE NICE) - 1968 Beat Club TV show
2. Fire (THE CRAZY WORLD OF ARTHUR BROWN) - 1968 Beat Club TV show
3. 21st Century Schizoid Man (KING CRIMSON) - 1969 Hyde Park concert (edit)
1. ELP in rehearsal 1973
2. "The story of the album covers" documentary
3. ELP at Brands Hatch 1973
4. Interview with Bob Moog
California Jam 1974, 44-minute performance:
2. Still You Turn Me On
3. Lucky Man
4. Piano improvisations
5. Take A Pebble
6. Karn Evil 9, 1st impression part 2
7. Karn Evil 9, 3rd impression
8. Spinning Piano
9. Great Gates of Kiev
"Beyond the beginning" documentary (1 hour)
Total Time: approx. 250 minutes
- Keith Emerson / keyboards
- Greg Lake / guitars, bass
- Carl Palmer / drums, assorted percussion
The greatest progressive band ever....
Grigory's Girl | NYC | 06/04/2006
(5 out of 5 stars)
"As a rabid Emerson, Lake, and Palmer fan, I was looking forward to this documentary, and, luckily, for the most part, it was very good. The music is fantastic, and the "Beyond the Beginning" documentary is very good. The clips are interesting (even though the music of some of them are set to studio recordings, as, I assume, the original audio was lost). And there are some technical glitches here and there (which have been documented by other reviewers), but compared to previous ELP DVD releases, they are relatively minor. When I first saw Lake, I thought it was an overweight roadie. He looks like he hasn't left his flat in years. Emerson looked ragged as well, but looked more irritated than anything. Palmer, on the other hand, was lucid and looked very well for his age. I never really knew about the creative tension between Emerson and Lake before. It was the reason for the group's many breakups. Yet, when Emerson or Lake was in a seperate band (like Emerson and Palmer's horrible 3), it just wasn't the same. Personality conflicts aside, I wish bands nowadays would have the ambition that these 3 gentlemen did. They were always looking for new sounds, as opposed to many (but not all) bands nowadays, who seem only interested in the celebrity aspects of the business. While ELP probably indulged themselves like all rock stars do, they also had an intensity in their music that is sorely missing today. Even on lesser albums like Love Beach, they had a professionalism that makes it listenable (the album is not as bad as some would suggest). I always get annoyed at critics who rag (even to this day) about how ELP was a terrible band, just driven by ego and nothing else. Then there's the cliched line that they (and all of progressive rock) was pretentious. Emerson says in this documentary that the reason that many people disliked (and resented) them was because they were too good. This comment may sound arrogant, but it isn't. Emerson says it rather nonchalantly, not in an arrogant and smug way. Emerson is the best damn keyboardist rock has ever seen, and Palmer is the most underrated drummer ever. Lake was never given credit for his musical dexterity and songwriting capabilities. ELP's technical proficency is unbelievable and truly amazing. No matter how many times I hear them, I still marvel at them. I do love other progressive bands, like Yes and King Crimson, but ELP still remains my favorite. I would love to hear some band today to be as ambitious as these guys can. They (and the other progressive rock bands) were not pretentious, they were simply ambitious."
It's Rock and Roll . . . Baby!
Scott T. Klingaman | Arizona, USA | 12/21/2005
(5 out of 5 stars)
"For those that LOVE ELP (me being one) this collection ROCKS.
You have to remember alot of the early stuff (70's), was being recorded and filmed by guys with one hand one the switch and the other holding a joint. But I love it all, cropped, early cuts and all . . . for those that Love Emerson, Lake and Palmer you will throughly enjoy it."