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Second Thoughts
Second Thoughts
Actors: Timmy Turner, Travis Potter, Brett Schwartz, Jake Jakovich, Koby Abberton
Director: Timmy Turner
Genres: Sports
NR     2004     0hr 40min

Alone on a deserted island in the middle of nowhere, three surfers bring us some of the most amazing surfing footage from one of the most dangerous reefs in the world! Timmy Turner and friends Potter and Schwartz allow vie...  more »


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Actors: Timmy Turner, Travis Potter, Brett Schwartz, Jake Jakovich, Koby Abberton
Director: Timmy Turner
Creators: Timmy Turner, Travis Potter, Brett Schwartz, Kristian McCue, Mick Waters, Rick Jakovich, Wes Becker, Ted Manning Hughes
Genres: Sports
Sub-Genres: Documentary, Surfing
Studio: Epitaph / Wea
Format: DVD - Color
DVD Release Date: 10/12/2004
Release Year: 2004
Run Time: 0hr 40min
Screens: Color
Number of Discs: 1
SwapaDVD Credits: 1
Total Copies: 0
Members Wishing: 1
MPAA Rating: NR (Not Rated)
Languages: English

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Movie Reviews

A completely amazing video
Wave Junky | 01/22/2005
(5 out of 5 stars)

"This movie is completely epic. It's about three friends who get dropped off on an uninhabited island in Indonesia for a month, with reef breaks firing all around them. Lots of cool barrel shots and other footage. Anybody who gives this review less than five stars is definitely a kook. This video is a must. I own over twenty surf vids and this is definitely my favorite. There's only two turns in this movie and then the rest is barrel riding. However, the waves, different angles, and the way they set up the camera to capture film inside the barrel is incredible."
Feral in Indonesia
diro | Atlanta, GA | 03/24/2006
(5 out of 5 stars)

""The term 'feral', actually, is an Aussie translation of the traditional U.S. term 'surf bum'. But whereas 'surf bum' describes a sort of genteel, happy-go-lucky young man thoroughly enthralled with surfing as a pre-career lark, feralism has a darker more obsessive side that sometimes manifests itself in creepy life-threatening situations." - Steve Barilotti, SURFER magazine.

The idea of seeking out perfect, uncrowded surf is not as easy as one would think if you understand how far the concept of "surf travel" has progressed over the last three decades. We've gone from a lone niche adventure limited to the brash and brave to something easily sold as an "all inclusive" plush package booked in a few clicks on the internet. It's almost too easy now and everywhere you go - no matter how remote - it seems as if someone has beaten you to the punch. There are full service surf camps, tour operators offering trips to a gazillion locations, fax reports, yachts with a full time crews, satellite phones, surf forecasts sent to your wireless PDA, even helicopters scouting the surf in order to report back the best's just gotten a little too much don't you think?

That is why it is refreshing to see the Huntington Beach, CA trio of friends Timmy Turner, Brett Schwartz, and Travis Potter going to the most obscure and out-of-the-way island location in Indonesia in order to find perfect uncrowded surf and live on the land in basic, almost unsafe conditions. The surf is gangbusters. There are sequences of waves so intense that they are unmakeable; but we don't care - just to see these guys throwing themselves over that steep ledge, and making the commitment is mind-bending enough. This film won several awards within the surf industry for it's unique cinematography, most notably filming of waves from the rider's perspective. Not sure what it is like to be in a dredging barrel with razor sharp reef just a few feet below the surface? You'll quickly find out after watching "2nd Thoughts". The last wave of the entire movie is close to 1 minute long with multiple barrel sections. Needless to say, your local beachbreak doesn't even hold a candle to the quality of waves seen here.

The potential dangers of being in such a remote location, with no electricity, no running water, and the nearest hospital 10hours away, are real. The threat of malaria while living/camping out for 3 weeks in a Sumatran jungle become a part of your every day life. What do you do when you run out of water? How do you ration your food properly? How does your gear stay dry from the nightly thunderstorms? The movie does an excellent job of documenting the daily issues these surfers encountered which makes their adventure even more intense. The majority of surfers I know would NEVER want to endure even 1/2 of what these guys did but I hope you'll be inspired next time you take a surf trip to take the road less traveled. I highly recommend this movie and it is in my Top 10 of surf DVDs.

Sidenote: As a testament to how adventurous Timmy Turner is, in the Winter of 2006 - after a surf trip to Mexico - he was stricken with a bacterial infection in his brain. At death's doorstep he has spent months in a hospital but is on the long road to a full recovery involving lots of medical care and rehab. In addition, it is disappointing to report that the Indonesian government has allowed a land-based "surf camp" to set up shop in front of one of the premiere waves featured in this movie. The camp - which is in a natural preserve - is now claiming "exclusive" rights to the surf spot and some surfers have reportedly been threatened for trying to surf it. Lastly, b/c of this movie I was inspired to live in a local's hut for 2 weeks in the Mentawai Island surfing my brains out during the Fall of 2005. Best surf trip of my life....

Remember, life isn't about finding yourself; it's about creating yourself.
Great video
kyle | montana | 12/25/2005
(5 out of 5 stars)

"First off, there is quite a bit of surfing footage in this film (more than some of the reviewers made seem) and the shots of the guys out there while not surfing kinda made a little story line...not some cheesy scripted one though. Those guys toughed it out but also got some great sufing in too. The "In the Barrel" footage is really some of the best surfing footage around. The waves are big, hollow, and long. Timmy and his friends may not be the absolute best surfers in the world but they hold their own in challenging waves and circumstances. I'd definitely reccomend this video to anyone that likes the ocean. Great deal too."
Best Surf Video of 2004
Robert D. Scally | 10/26/2004
(5 out of 5 stars)

"Surfer magazine named "Second Thoughts" best surf film of 2004.
This isn't the usual surf video with lots of helicopter shots and big name surfers. Turner & co. have ventured to remotest Indonesia where they stake out a deserted island and proceed to go feral while riding huge waves while also filming some of the most awesome surfing footage ever seen.
More like a documentary than a surf video, "Second Thoughts" is well edited and has a great sound track of mostly OC area bands.
One sequence on this DVD has to be one of the longest rides ever taped by a surfer from on the board.
If you want to show someone who doesn't surf what surfing looks and feels like, show them "Second Thoughts."
If you like this film, check out Turner's earlier effort, "Burning the Map.""