Search - Rameses - Wrath of God or Man on DVD

Straw man

Holy Olio | Grand Rapids, MI USA | 06/19/2006

(2 out of 5 stars)

"Kent Weeks, rediscoverer of KV5, found three partial human remains in a pit in that tomb. He speculates that one of these (one in particular) is the remains of Amonherkhopshef (Amonherwenemef), firstborn son of Ramses II. Like a lot of people, Weeks saddles on to the mistaken claim that Ramses II "the Great" was the pharaoh of the Exodus. The rest of the video then treats both identifications as factual, then uses those straw men arguments to prove that the Exodus didn't happen.

For example, the skull is that of a grown man, not a child, so despite the fact that no one will ever know the identity of the remains, the words in the narration are, "the Biblical tradition must be wrong." This is unforgivably shoddy, silly, and stupid.

Even more grandiose are the video's claims to show that none of the details of the Exodus, from the identity and age of Moses, through the Plagues, the fountainhead of monotheism, the nature of the escape, all the way through the actual cause of death of the pharaoh, are false.

Since 18th dynasty Hatshepsut's bas relief of her voyage to Punt names the port official who greeted her there, and it matches that of a Solomonic-era port official in charge at Ezion Geber, and since the Amarna archive of the 18th dynasty contains names right out of the Old Testament from the time of the early monarchy of the House of David, Akhenaten must have lived centuries after Moses, and could not have been the source of Moses' monotheism.

And more obviously, the 19th dynasty was not the time of the Exodus.

The video is well put together otherwise. Morgan Freeman's narration is pretty cool. I give the product a mere two stars because the script and the premise isn't worth a you know what. If this is what it takes to keep Kent Weeks excavating KV5 for the rest of his life, close the excavation right now.
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Pathetic! They call this science?

Hoss | USA | 04/12/2006

(1 out of 5 stars)

"What a nightmare! About 99% of this movie is based on wild assumptions. About the only real and credible evidence that they have about the "skull" is that the somebody "died", and probably died in battle or possibly due to murder (gash in the skull). As the movie progresses, it seems obvious that these guys set out and were "bent" on butchering the Biblical account of the Exodus. They even butcher the account of the Red Sea crossing by "explaining" that the "RED" sea was mis-translated, and was really the "REED" sea, and they actually take us there in the movie; it's just an oversized SWAMP! The Bible states that the people of Israel crossed the sea on DRY ground (not a knee-deep swamp) with a "wall of water to their right and to their left"! Doesn't sound like a swamp to me. Supposedly, in the SWAMP, the people of Israel waited in ambush for Pharoah's army. When the army got close enough, Moses and his people jumped out from behind the "reeds" and slaughtered the army. What in the world are these people thinking? Pharoah's warriors were well-trained butchers, fully prepared for battle, mounted on horse-driven chariots! The people of Israel were loaded down with their household belongings, etc, NOT WEAPONS! Nor were they trained to fight; they wouldn't have even been able to hold off the army for even a minute, much less "slaughter" them. The whole thing doesn't even make sense! Based on the "evidence" they present, I get the idea that the "skull" was from a household servant perhaps. They don't even know if it was the right Pharoah or not. My opinion is that your money will be better spent on a thoughtful gift for your significant other."

Don't waste your money

Gregory D. Meyer | Bullhead City, AZ | 03/29/2006

(1 out of 5 stars)

"Poorly done - mostly fiction with no fact! Good for entertainment but not for science. I was totally disappointed and believe now that the intent of the DVD was to do a hatchet job on the bible - and done poorly. The DVD starts out like it is going to trace the biblical Exodus to Egypt's Pharaohs and tell what really happened to the Pharaoh's first-born son - was he killed by God's wrath or by man's wrath. The DVD reminded me of a Laurel and Hardy movie - sending Egyptologist Weeks and journelist Sennet around Egypt in a comedy fashion. It starts out with finding a skull, believed to be Rameses' son and half-way through the DVD they find out that this skull is not the skull they were looking for and so they tossed it and took another skull from the tomb (four total in one mass grave - which is kind of strange for Pharaoh's sons) and reconstructed this skull to look like what they think Rameses's first born looked like without any evidence that it is THE one. Rameses is alleged to have over 100 children. Overall, the producers of this DVD didn't know where the Red Sea geograhical crossing took place, where the mountain of God was located or where the burning bush was located or at what date this all took place, or under which Pharaoh, etc - all of which I believe now to be wrong in their hypothesis. Since their hypothesis didn't agree with the bible, it didn't dawn on the people putting this expose together that they might be looking in the wrong places, time, Pharaohs, etc; so ... they changed the bible text! Is this what schools are teaching for science today? I recently ordered and reviewed the DVD Exodus Revealed and the book Exodus Case by Dr. Moller, both which are outstanding and CREDIBLE and based on science. In these two items - they do reveal where the crossing took place and where the Mountain of God (Mt. Sinai) is, as well as finding evidence of Pharaoh's chariots on the bottom of the Red Sea. I recommend these two as a must see if one is interested in the Exodus Red Sea crossing and would wait to see the Rameses DVD on Discovery, Nat'l Geographic and other PBS channel types."

Good forensic analyses about a fake historical story !

Averroes | USA | 05/28/2006

(2 out of 5 stars)

"This movie(can NOT be categorized as a documentary movie!) is based on an assumption that Moses killed Ramses II's son. Interestingly the archeologists found a skull of a murdered that is, more likely, closely related to that of RamesesII as indicated by x-ray analysis. The skull for that murdered person for unknown reason had been suppected to be for the son of Rameses II_the only clear reason for such claim was the location of the skull discovery! Based on the bible, the investigators/archealogists started to investigate wheather the son of Ramses(the discovered skull) had been killed by God or Moses..The narrators mentioned that, based on the bible, the older son of Ramses II had been killed by God and this explains why Rameses II left the jews leave Egypt!!!!!!! Then, the movie postulated a lot of additonal scenarios for how this person had been killed! The most acceptable one was that Moeses was in charge of killing the older RamsesII's son. Moreover, the movie makers assumed that there were two phoarohs survived the Exodus; the first one (erronously, based on the movie, was Ramses II) who brought Moses up and the second pharaoh,the murdered person(presumably is the son of Ramses II!). This was really so amayzing!!!! But, what are the proofs for such claims?!!!! Besides, the movie showed moses as if he were a follower of Akhenaten!!! Anyway, I found the forensic analyses were so good, but the whole story of the son of Ramses II was really a supersition!. Highly recommended for people interested in forensic medicine; Not for those interested in real aracheological findings!"